Dr. Renee Lertzman
Season 2: Episode 2
In season two of Doom & Bloom we’re focusing on how designers can shift the culture within the design industry to prioritize climate-forward design decisions.
We kicked off the new season during San Francisco Climate Week, interviewing Dr. Renee Lertzman, climate psychologist and strategist.
Listen to Renee and Marc discuss the gap between how much designers care about climate and how little they're actually able to integrate it into their work and why the usual moves (educating, persuading, making the case harder) don’t work. They also explored how shifting from “yell, tell, sell” to attunement and guiding can help designers actually move culture inside their organizations.
Subscribe to Doom & Bloom on Spotify and Apple.About our guest
Dr. Renee Lertzmen is a psychologist, researcher, and strategist who has spent three decades investigating why people struggle to act on what they care most deeply about—and what it actually takes to change that. Renee has advised leaders at Google, IKEA, the White House, and WWF, and her TED “Talk How to Turn Climate Anxiety into Action” has over two million views. She's the author of Environmental Melancholia, founder of Project InsideOut, and her forthcoming book “So You Want to Change the World?” is out from Viking in 2027.
The Doom & Bloom Team
Marc O’Brien (Host)
Camille Graham (Producer)
Jacquelyn Demshick (Designer)
Holden Hardcastle (Editor)